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sich unter Wert anbieten  
von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2015-04-17, 14:19  like dislike  Spam?  
Is this the same as "sich unter Wert verkaufen" (i.e. to sell oneself short) or is it more "to undervalue oneself"?

I don't think there's a huge difference between the two sentences I gave in the English, but for me "selling yourself short" is more about what you say about yourself to others, but "undervaluing yourself" is more about how you feel about yourself internally, for instance I might think that I'm the greatest birthday cake maker of all time, but still only mumble something to someone else about having made a cake or two, and I would think that that would be selling myself short, but not necessarily undervaluing myself. On the other hand, "undervaluing yourself" could also be viewed as an external thing, as you might set too low a value when telling others your value or charging for what you do.
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you don't ask for what you're worth  #797222
von Lisa4dict loggedout, 2015-04-17, 13:09  like dislike  Spam?  99.11.162....
I think it's pretty much a toss up.  But I think "verkaufen" refers more to a done deal, whereas "anbieten" may mean he/she hasn't gotten the job yet or whatever other activity they misrepresented themselves for.
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von Windfall (GB), 2015-04-17, 13:13  like dislike  Spam?  
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My text is more general than that - this is simply a tendency of a certain personality type. But after having to try so hard to differentiate between what the two options I gave in English actually meant, in the end I decided there wasn't that much difference between them after all and "undervalue yourself" surely had to cover it, whether it was meant internally or externally. It's phrases like that that make me question the extent to which any of use truly understand the meaning of what others are trying to express or whether anyone truly understands us! (Still, it was a fun text and I enjoyed it.)
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von iriemonloggedout, 2015-04-17, 13:39  like dislike  Spam?  80.144.112....
 #797235
I don't think it's that you undervalue your own abilities. You may well know exactly what you are capable of but you don't go round and tell the world what a wonderfully skilled ..... you are. Possibly because you're introvert and don't like extrovert behaviour. But just a guess.
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Point of spelling: it is unter Wert (noun!)  #797240
von Proteus-, 2015-04-17, 13:52  like dislike  Spam?  194.96.51....
etwas unter [seinem] Wert (Marktwert) verkaufen   http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Wert
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von Windfall (GB), 2015-04-17, 14:19  like dislike  Spam?  
 #797250
Thanks, Proteus, I've changed that now.
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von Windfall (GB), 2015-04-17, 16:12  like dislike  Spam?  
 #797270
Thanks, Iriemon, I think this was indeed being said about an introvert, in which case "sell yourself short" would also have been good.
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von iriemonloggedout, 2015-04-17, 16:23  like dislike  Spam?  80.144.112....
 #797271
you're welcome

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