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bell boy steward  
von gesellschafter2, 2019-05-04, 12:48  like dislike  Spam?  194.166.115....
Hr. Barrett ertrank bei der Titanic-Katastrophe.
Er arbeitete als "bell boy steward"
Bitte, was wäre eine gute Übersetzung von "bell boy steward"
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von sunfunlili (DE/GB), 2019-05-04, 13:42  like dislike  Spam?  
 #908442
Kabinen Steward
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von Proofreader, 2019-05-04, 15:07  like dislike  Spam?  62.178.142....
 #908446
Abgesehen davon, dass "Kabinensteward" auf Deutsch zusammengeschrieben wird, habe ich noch von keinem solchen Schiffsangestellten gehört, dass er im Alter eines "boy" gewesen wäre.
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nothing to do with age .....  #908447
von sunfunlili (DE/GB), 2019-05-04, 15:18  like dislike  Spam?  
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Grammar suggestion: bell-boy steward (hyphenation)  #908448
von Proteus-, 2019-05-04, 15:20  like dislike  Spam?  62.46.130....
Quote: The latter are hyphenated only as noun-adjective compounds (nouns describing other nouns) —

     We need new dining-room furniture.
https://www.gsbe.co.uk/grammar-the-hyphen.html#hyphen:%20comp%20nouns

https://www.gsbe.co.uk/appendix-iii-word-wise-c.html#app%20iii:%20c...
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von sunfunlili (DE/GB), 2019-05-04, 15:34  like dislike  Spam?  
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Der aufmerksame Übersetzer lernt aus bell-boy steward > Kabinensteward, dass die Schiffskabine auf Englisch bell boy heißt ...  #908452
von Proteus-, 2019-05-04, 16:06  like dislike  Spam?  62.46.130....
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von MichaelK (US), Last modified: 2019-05-04, 17:28  like dislike  Spam?  
 #908453
From looking at Titanic discussion sites, it's clear that three bellboys are known to have perished in the Titanic disaster:

W.A. Watson (age 14)
Arthur Barrett (age 15)
Clifford Henry Harris (age 16)

Supposedly, two more bellboys died for a total of five. But that's never been confirmed. Bellboys on a large liner like the Titanic did what bellboys (Hotelpagen) do in hotels: wait for a signal and verbal orders instructing them to assist a paying customer.  I suspect that "steward" was added to the term to indicate a position within the crew's ranking scheme. But that's just a guess.

I found a contemporary account of the sinking in which the claim is made that 50 Titanic bellboys died. I think this shows that  'bellboy' was also applied to young crew members who did not directly assist passengers on orders of a ranking crew member, for example, the purser.
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By the bye, a reminder: bell boy / bellhop ~ page boy / buttons > Hotelpage    dict.cc: Hotelpage  #908455
von Proteus-, 2019-05-04, 17:53  like dislike  Spam?  62.46.130....
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steward vs. bellhop  #908457
von aphoenix (US), Last modified: 2019-05-04, 18:52  like dislike  Spam?  
A steward usually has management duties as opposed to being just a bellhop, but perhaps the terminology is different on ships.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steward
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bellhop
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Buttons noun — a pantomime character these days  #908458
von Proteus-, 2019-05-04, 18:53  like dislike  Spam?  62.46.130....
British
informal


   A nickname for a liveried pageboy, now normally only in pantomimes.

Origin

Mid 19th century: from the rows of buttons on his jacket.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/buttons
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von aphoenix (US), 2019-05-04, 18:54  like dislike  Spam?  
 #908459
Perhaps "bell-boy steward" designated a bellhop who was specifically responsible for food requests as opposed to assistance with luggage, etc.
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Possibly the job description covered a young trainee ship steward  #908460
von Proteus-, 2019-05-04, 19:57  like dislike  Spam?  62.46.130....
https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/pog/crew_pog_victual_1st.php

A cruise ship steward, or cabin steward, is a key part of the housekeeping staff on board a cruise ship, responsible for servicing the rooms of passengers on board the cruise ship and making sure they were cleaned to a good standard. https://www.allaboutcareers.com/careers/job-profile/cruise-ship-ste...

https://careertrend.com/info-8536298-duties-steward-ship.html

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/cruise-ship-ste...
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Well, the bellhop's tears keep flowin'  #908525
von migmag (DE), 2019-05-07, 09:45  like dislike  Spam?  
And the desk clerk's dressed in black
Well, they've been so long on Lonely Street
Well, they'll never, they'll never get back

--> Heartbreak hotel. Great rock'n roll song!

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