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How to pronounce „xyz“ in English?  
von Markus1975v2, 2019-10-27, 11:23  like dislike  Spam?  91.47.23...
Yesterday I listened to an American native speaker, the sentence I understood was something like „you can outfit this (sailing)boat with many options, option a, option b, option c, xyz“. Now if that’s what he said, he did not pronounce xyz as I would expect it - z as „zett“, he pronounced it more like xyC (C as in saying „abc“). Is it possible to pronounce it that way, or did I maybe said something different that would make sense in this sentence? thanks in advance!
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Correction last sentence: he instead of I :)  #913333
von Markus1975v2, 2019-10-27, 11:24  like dislike  Spam?  91.47.23...
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von MarkusMunich (DE), 2019-10-27, 11:31  like dislike  Spam?  
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Yes, Americans say "XYC" => https://youtu.be/hommWz1qKGk
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Great video! I wasn’t aware of that! Thanks!  #913337
von Markus1975v2, 2019-10-27, 11:41  like dislike  Spam?  91.47.23...
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von MichaelK (US), 2019-10-27, 12:10  like dislike  Spam?  
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Americans don't say "xyc." Most likely, you can't hear the difference between the American "c" /'si:/ and the American "z" /'zi:/ when naming the letters of the alphabet.

To appreciate the difference, it helps to compare the sound of the "c" in the French merci with the sound of the "s" in the German sie. The difference between these two sound is the difference between the American "c" an the American "z."
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von MarkusMunich (DE), 2019-10-27, 12:19  like dislike  Spam?  
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all I wanted to say (and that was the question) is that they don't say "zett" like in British English
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von kkava (US/DE), 2019-10-27, 12:20  like dislike  Spam?  
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Yes it is like "Echs-Uai-Sie" in a German accent.
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von MichaelK (US), 2019-10-27, 12:30  like dislike  Spam?  
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4;Markus: Then I misunderstood you, sorry. The difference between "z" and "zett" is obvious. My comment was in response to your "...he pronounced it more like xyC (C as in saying „abc“)." I think you misheard that.
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von Ceterum censeo, 2019-10-27, 12:31  like dislike  Spam?  79.224.97....
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Also, the way Germans try to pronounce "the" is often ridiculed by Americans as "ze", which is extremely puzzling to Germans. Lately, I saw a TV show where the word "Zugzwang" which apparently is also used by US chess players was pronounced as "sugswang". So, who should laugh at whom?
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von MichaelK (US), Last modified: 2019-10-27, 13:36  like dislike  Spam?  
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Well, it's puzzling only if you believe that the insulting "ze" is supposed to indicate a sound like the German zeh as in "toe." The American reader of that "ze" will imagine a sound like the German sie, which is a fairly common mispronunciation of the English "the."

Recently heard on a local (U.S.) radio station: "...by Woolf-gang Mo-sart." Could have been a piece out of the Sauberflöte. Just shows you that anyone can be a radio announcer in the U.S., like anyone can be president of something....
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von Ursinus (GB), 2019-10-27, 14:51  like dislike  Spam?  
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In BE, Z is pronounced "zed", so US trade names like EZ Clean don't work over here. 4;MichaelK: the BBC once announced a performance of Bach's Prelude and Fug-you.
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von MichaelK (US), 2019-10-27, 15:01  like dislike  Spam?  
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4;Ursinus: That's funny! Sounds as if this Bach fellow had a salacious streak in him.
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von hausamsee (DE), Last modified: 2019-10-27, 15:47  like dislike  Spam?  
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auch der älteren Generation in DE, also Leuten, die das th nie richtig auzusprechen gelernt oder nur sehr selten oder nie richtig ausgesprochen gehört hatten, gelang manchmal die richtige Aussprache. Von Panik ergriffen, dass das th auszusprechen nicht gelingen würde, kam es zu der seltsamen Permutation /z/ = /th/ also /th/ = /s/.

Konsequenterweise: "Thmis" /s/ = Smith.

Wobei das "deutsche" th so schlecht gar nicht klang (soweit ich es beurteilen kann).
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von sunfunlili (DE/GB), 2019-10-28, 08:23  like dislike  Spam?  
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never heard a Cockney?
Google: cockney pronunciation

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