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von RedRufus (DE), 2020-09-24, 19:20   Spam?  

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von Windfall (GB), 2020-09-24, 19:27   Spam?  

Thanks, RedRufus!

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von Windfall (GB), 2020-09-24, 19:28   Spam?  

Thanks, RedRufus!

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von Proofreader, 2020-09-24, 22:29   Spam?  62.178.142....

In other words: his function or position.

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von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2020-09-24, 22:50   Spam?  

Thanks, Proofreader. "Capacity of the signatory" is misleading for that (it sounds like you're talking about with they have the capacity/ability to sign). I guess I might be able to say something like "capacity in which the signatory has signed" to draw the distinction from "capacity of the signatory to sign"

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von RedRufus (DE), 2020-09-24, 22:56   Spam?  

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von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2020-09-25, 09:24   Spam?  

Thanks, RedRufus. I can't think how to use that in the sentence.  My best attempt is: The authenticity of the signature and the official seal and the capacity in which the signatory has signed are confirmed.

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von RedRufus (DE), Last modified: 2020-09-25, 11:57   Spam?  

Im Amtsdeutsch ist das entpersonalisierte Passiv sehr beliebt. Aber das muss man nicht unbedingt ebenso übersetzen, finde ich.

Das "Ich" ist üblicherweise höheren Amtsträgern vorbehalten, z.B. einem Minister

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von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2020-09-25, 12:03   Spam?  

4;RedRufus, is that really what "Eigenschaft des Unterzeichners" means here? Isn't the "Eigenschaft des Unterzeichners" one of the three things being confirmed? The way I see it, this sentences confirms:
1. Die Echtheit der Unterschrift (the authenticity of the signature)
2. Die Echtheit des Amtssiegels (the authenticity of the official seal) and
3. die Eigenschaft des Unterzeichners (possibly the capacity in which the signatory has signed, possibly the status/job/role of the signatory).

To be quite frank, it's not even clear to me which signatory we're talking about, so the translation of this sentence can't rely on context from the rest of the document. There are three different signatories on three different pages, the Eigenschaft of one of which is clearly being confirmed. The one I think you think is the signatory whose Eigenschaft is being confirmed doesn't even have a job title listed, but is  signing for (presumably in the sense of "on behalf of") another role, which would lead to the sentence "In my capacity as signatory for <role x>, I confirm the authenticity of the signature and the official seal". But then, how can you sign to confirm the authenticity of your own signature through your signature? And if you're signing to confirm the authenticity of someone else's signature, is it definitely your own Eigenschaft you're confirming and not the Eigenschaft of the other signatory?

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von RedRufus (DE), 2020-09-25, 12:05   Spam?  

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von Windfall (GB), 2020-09-25, 12:42   Spam?  

It's an Austrian (local) government document. It appears to be authenticating an Auszug aus dem Heiratseintrag, but it may be authenticating a second piece of paper authenticating the Auszug. It doesn't match any form of bureaucracy in the UK, and, on the plus side, because I already submitted this job, so am mainly interested in pursuing this in case someone else needs the phrase later, anyone in the UK who reads it will just read pretty much the entire 2 pages of it that aren't the extract itself as saying "this document has been certified authentic by the relevant officials"

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von RedRufus (DE), Last modified: 2020-09-26, 08:58   Spam?  

Dadurch bestätigt ein Notar z.B  dass eine  Unterschrift tatsächlich von dem namentlich genannten Unterzeichner geleistet worden ist und in welcher Eigenschaft (z.B. als Zeuge, als Käufer, als Zeichnungsberechtigter einer Firma, als Vorstand, als Prokurist, usw.) der Unterzeichner unterschrieben hat   -   in which capacity. Es geht um die Unterschrift in dem notariell beglaubigten Dokument, nicht um die Unterschrift des Notars unter dem beglaubigendem Dokument

https://www.nationalnotary.org/knowledge-center/about-notaries/what...

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von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2020-09-26, 09:55   Spam?  

A notary isn't mentioned once in the document. If you're notarising something, shouldn't you specify that you're a notary? Do local governments in Austria typically use notaries to sign on behalf of government officials without specifying they are notaries? Do you use notaries in Germany to sign to say that  certificates or extracts from various registers are authentic? I had always assumed that if a notary was involved this would be specified and what I was actually seeing was the signature of some minor civil servant. I've seen plenty of documents signed by notaries,  and there always seems to be a big fuss about who the notary is. It's a new concept to me that a notary might sign on behalf of someone else without anyone mentioning the full name of the notary or the fact they are a notary.

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von Windfall (GB), Last modified: 2020-09-26, 09:56   Spam?  

How do you know that a notary is involved if no one mentions it?