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Veredelung durch Fermentation  
von MaLin23, 2021-03-23, 15:10  like dislike  Spam?  2.205.182....
Wie kann ich den Titel: "Veredelung durch Fermentation" auf englisch ausdrücken?

Der Begriff "Veredelung" steht für die gesundheitlichen, ernährungsphysiologischen Vorteile durch den Fermentationsprozess von Gemüse, wie z.B. Sauerkraut.
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Refining through fermentation  #927276
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 15:36  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
The invention discloses a technique for refining erucic acid through microbial fermentation, which is characterized in that the technical process comprises rape ...
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN101525639A/en

https://tureng.com/de/deutsch-englisch/veredeln
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"Refining / refine / refined" would send the wrong message.  #927278
von MichaelK (US), Last modified: 2021-03-23, 17:33  like dislike  Spam?  
In U.S. American English, "to refine" in the food context is not a good choice. It suggests removing fiber and other nutrients, often until the food is nutritionally worthless. The patent linked above is about industrially processed foods. Incidentally, the substance around which the patent revolves sabotages good nutrition.

While "ennobling" seems a good fit linguistically, it's not a well-known word and could sound pretentious ("weird") to some. I would suggest "adding nutritional value through fermentation." This sets the stage for a discussion of gut flora. One alternative is "fortification through fermentation," with the word "fortify" in the food context generally suggesting the addition of something nutritionally beneficial. And it's a nice alliteration.
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Enhancement Through Fermentation  #927279
von callixte (US), 2021-03-23, 17:35  like dislike  Spam?  
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von MichaelK (US), 2021-03-23, 18:45  like dislike  Spam?  
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Agree, 'enhancement' works well here. It implies that something good was made even better.
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von callixte (US), 2021-03-23, 20:08  like dislike  Spam?  
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Turnabout is fair play; invariably MichaelK, it is you who does the enhancing;;;).
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Enrichment through fermentation  #927290
von JimV (US), 2021-03-23, 20:53  like dislike  Spam?  
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"pickled cabbage" "fortification through fermentation" don't do particularly well, do they?  #927293
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:10  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
Up the garden path?
Cabbage cultivars contained from about 3.0-6.0% total sugars, and ... for in situ vitamin K2 fortification through fermentation with selected LAB.
Google: "pickled cabbage" "fortification through fermentation"
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The +nutritional value" thingy seems to fall through altogether  #927294
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:12  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Nor does Google seem to like "Enhancement Through Fermentation"  #927295
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:15  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Down the garden path straight to the cliff edge?  #927296
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:19  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Let's be fair, mates. "pickled cabbage" "refining through fermentation." > ZILCH  #927298
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:35  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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von MichaelK (US), 2021-03-23, 23:39  like dislike  Spam?  
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Proteus, Veredelung durch Fermentation is not a commonly used phrase. So you're not going to find the suggested translations on google, which, of course, you knew or at least hoped for from the outset.  Your 15:36 reply missed the mark completely, but no big deal. We all miss the mark on occasion. But the mocking hostility in your subsequent remarks is uncalled for.
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Wo das Nichts nichtet, flieht das Etwas ins Kaum.  #927300
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:41  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Parmenides? Zenon von Elea? Aristoteles? Plotin? Abélard? Spinoza? Fichte? Heidegger?  #927301
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:45  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Oder vielleicht doch Carnap?  #927302
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:53  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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von MichaelK (US), 2021-03-23, 23:54  like dislike  Spam?  
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4;callixte: Thanks for the kind words. "Enhance" always brings a smile to my face.

When someone in the U.S. military leaves for a new assignment, there's always a little get-together with kind words for the person leaving. But you never praise that person for "improving" or "bettering" something. It's always "enhancing something." This way, you don't offend the people who held the departing person's position years ago--and are now generals in the Pentagon!  :-)
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> MichaelK (US), today, 23:39 > Veredelung durch Fermentation bringt immerhin 6 Treffer, also mehr als wir alle zusammengeschustert haben.  #927305
von Proteus-, 2021-03-23, 23:58  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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Googling  #927307
von callixte (US), 2021-03-24, 00:18  like dislike  Spam?  
4;Proteus: If you widen your google search, I firmly believe you will get a very good sense of the way English is used to describe the process presented in the question posted.  Here are a very few relevant examples.  The actual number of google hits linking enhancement and fermentation is enormous.

fermentation enhances the organoleptic and nutritional quality of the fermented

fermentation enhances the organoleptic and nutritional quality of the fermentedot only does fermentation help enhance food preservation, but eating fermented

Recent insight and future techniques to enhance rumen fermentation in dairy goats

Solid-state fermentation with fungi to enhance the antioxidative activity, total phenolic and anthocyanin contents of black bean
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One more  - Please Look at these exact matches:  #927308
von callixte (US), Last modified: 2021-03-24, 00:47  like dislike  Spam?  
 ... Enhancement [of Antioxidative Activities of Berry or Vegetable Juices] through Fermentation by Lactic ...

 "Enhancement [of the Functional Properties of Coffee] Through Fermentation by “Tea Fungus

Nutritional enhancement [of cocoa pod husk meal] through fermentation using Rhizopus stolonifer · Olugosi ..
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You might do the same in German, callixte, with a score far better than the piddling 6 hits for Veredelung durch Fermentation.   #927309
von Proteus-, 2021-03-24, 00:46  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
Google: "Fermentation veredelt"

Google: "durch Fermentation veredelt"

The thing is, though: the query was Veredelung durch Fermentation, wasn't it?
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Summing up for tonight: Wo das Nichts nichtet, flieht das Etwas ins Kaum.  #927310
von Proteus-, 2021-03-24, 00:48  like dislike  Spam?  194.118.48....
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von callixte (US), 2021-03-24, 01:13  like dislike  Spam?  
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Fair enough Proteus, but that still begs the question: what happens to the foodstuff when it is veredelt.  Is it refined?  Or is it enriched? Or enhanced?  My googling informs me that all three are possible.  Very possible.   More context, as always, might make one more suitable than the others.

Healthy bacteria found in naturally fermented foods produce enzymes that can break down foods present in the intestines, thus making the nutrients easier absorption. Furthermore, the beneficial bacteria also produce vitamins such as the water soluble vitamin B and C, making the fermented food richer in nutrients.

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